Why doesn't changing the pre to the post increment at the iteration part of a for loop make a difference?

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Why does this

 int x = 2;
    for (int y =2; y>0;y--){
        System.out.println(x + " "+ y + " ");
        x++;
    }

prints the same as this?

 int x = 2;
        for (int y =2; y>0;--y){
            System.out.println(x + " "+ y + " ");
            x++;
        }

As far, as I understand a post-increment is first used "as it is" then incremented. Are pre-increment is first added and then used. Why this doesn't apply to the body of a for loop?

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• for(initialisation; condition; incrementing): yes. - Mitch Wheat
• Use javap to produce bytecode for both and see. Be an experimentalist. - duffymo